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Forum : Suggestions : free jazz/contemporary


i think that should be better to divide "free jazz / contemporary " in 2 different musical genres


for "contemporary" we can call it:

[B]"Electronic art" [/B] : music is a term for the formal - and primarily academic - branch of electronic music that is focused on extending musical capabilities through technology. Electronic art music suffers from naming difficulties due to ambiguities similar to those associated with the terms "contemporary music" (music that is being produced right now) and "modern classical music" (modern music composed in the traditions of classical music.)

and for "free jazz":

[B]"Nu-jazz" (or "electro-jazz") [/B] : was coined in the late 1990s to refer to styles which combine jazz textures and sometimes jazz instrumentation with electronic music. Like the term electronica, nu jazz is a loosely defined umbrella musical style. It ranges from combining live instrumentation with beats of jazz house (exemplified by French St Germain, German Jazzanova and Fila Brazillia from the UK) to more band-based improvised jazz with electronic elements (such as that of the British Cinematic Orchestra, and the Norwegian future jazz style pioneered by Bugge Wesseltoft, Jaga Jazzist, Nils Petter Molvær and others).Nu-jazz typically ventures farther into the electronic territory than does its close cousin, acid jazz (or groove jazz), which is generally closer to earthier funk, soul and rhythm and blues, although releases from noted groove jazz artists such as the Groove Collective blur the distinction between the styles.

(all that definition comes for wikipedia.org)


if anybody have more ideas or better definitions...



(ps : sorry for my poor english)




 
 
 
yes, why not?

for example Contemporary will be a place for acousmatic tracks...
 
 
 
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yes, why not?

for example Contemporary will be a place for acousmatic tracks...



will be great!!!
 
 
 
anybody have opinions??? i call this tread "free jazz /contemporary" but it could be a place for write about all musical genres...

 
 
 
like;

[B]Krautrock [/B] : is a generic name for the experimental bands who appeared in Germany in the early 1970s. It was originally a somewhat derogatory term coined by the British music press from the slang term "Kraut", meaning "a German person" and taken from the traditional German dish of pickled cabbage, Sauerkraut. However, because much of the music produced by these bands has since come to be very highly regarded, the term "krautrock" is now generally seen as an accolade rather than an insult.

Typical bands dubbed "krautrock" in the early 1970s included Tangerine Dream, Faust, Can, and others associated with the celebrated Cologne-based producer and engineer Conny Plank, such as Neu!, Kraftwerk and Cluster. Bands such as these were reacting against the post-WWII cultural vacuum in Germany and tending to reject Anglo-American popular culture in favour of creating their own more radical and experimental new German culture.

Mostly instrumental, the signature sound of krautrock mixed rock music and "rock band" instrumentation (guitar, bass, drums) with electronic instrumentation and textures , often with what would now be described as an ambient music sensibility.

 
 
 
also;


[B]Lounge [/B] refers to music played in the lounges and bars of hotels and casinos, or at standalone piano bars. Generally, the performers include a singer and one or two other musicians. The performers play or cover songs composed by others, especially pop standards, many deriving from the days of Tin Pan Alley. Notionally, much lounge music consists of sentimental favorites enjoyed by a lone drinker over a martini, though in practice there is much more variety.

The term can also refer to laid-back electronic music, also named downtempo, because of the reputation of lounge music as low-key background music.

 
 
 
and why not;

Easy listening is a style of popular music which emerged in the mid-20th century. Around 1980, it was the most listened to radio format in America, although it soon became scarce as a format not because its listeners were too few but because they were getting too old and therefore less desirable for radio advertisers. This type of music features simple, catchy melodies, cool, laid-back harmonies and occasionally rhythms suitable for dancing. While it is mostly instrumental music, some singers, such as Andy Williams, Jack Jones, Engelbert Humperdinck and Eydie Gorme had vocal styles which were highly compatible with this style. Much of the work of some other pop vocalists, including Frank Sinatra, Tom Jones, and Mel Torme was too frenetic or swing-oriented to be played in an easy listening format. "Mood music" is another term for this style. Beautiful music is a subset of easy listening music, since as a radio format it had rigid standards for instrumentation (e.g., few or no saxophones) and restrictions on how many vocal pieces could be played in an hour.

The term has sometimes been applied negatively in the years since this format went out of fashion. It is similar to what is called lounge or lounge core, but lounge music is much more jazz-oriented and dependent on improvisation than easy listening. Easy listening music is almost always orchestrated and is more analagous to classical music than to jazz. Since easy-listening music is rather unknown to the younger generations, the term easy listening is often incorrectly applied to soft pop or new age music. Easy-listening music is sometimes pejoratively called "Muzak."

 
 
 
also;

[B]Psychedelic [/B] a musical genre inspired by or attempting to replicate the mind-altering experience of drugs such as cannabis, psilocybin, mescaline, and especially LSD. It is not rigorously defined, and is sometimes interpreted to include everything from Acid Rock and Flower Power music to Hard Rock. However, an inner core of the genre that came to public attention in 1967 can be recognized by characteristic features such as modal melodies; esoteric lyrics often describing dreams, visions, or hallucinations; longer songs and lengthy instrumental solos; and recently invented "trippy" electronic effects such as distortion, reverb, and reversed, delayed and/or phased sounds.

 
 
 
and why not;

post-rock was coined by Simon Reynolds in issue 123 of The Wire (May 1994) to describe a sort of music "using rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes, using guitars as facilitators of timbres and textures rather than riffs and power chords."

Originally used to describe the music of such bands as Stereolab, Disco Inferno, Seefeel, Bark Psychosis and Pram, it spread out to be frequently used for all sorts of jazz- and Krautrock-influenced, instrumental, electronica-added music made after 1994 . Bands from the early 1990s such as Slint, or earlier, such as Talk Talk were influential on this genre.

As with many musical genres, the term is arguably inadequate: it is used for the music of Tortoise as well as that of Mogwai, two bands who have very little in common besides the fact that their music is largely instrumental
 
 
 
ok, musical genres is not so important....but can be usefull...



more ideas?????
 
 
 
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ok, musical genres is not so important....but can be usefull...



more ideas?????

why not the possibillity to fill in a more accurate word for the genre u've made? like: i made some progressiv techno, so i post it under techno, and i fill in progressiv techno somewhere, so when u see the list of genres, u see "techno (progressiv techno)". i think this solves all the arguments we've had about the genres and subgenres on ebel.
 
 
 

why not the possibillity to fill in a more accurate word for the genre u've made? like: i made some progressiv techno, so i post it under techno, and i fill in progressiv techno somewhere, so when u see the list of genres, u see "techno (progressiv techno)". i think this solves all the arguments we've had about the genres and subgenres on ebel.


yeah could be cool!! you can have one main genre for a track and one sub genre, for exemple :if a user make principaly, techno but one of his track contain ambient sounds, the
main genre is techno, for the top 50 and classification
but he can add also ambient,but ambient is a sub genre for this track, its more for guide the listeners ....
 
 
 
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hey, the new Oor encyclopedia seems out!

Elevator music is a source for jokes for many people. While technology has improved by miles and in-house stereo and public announcement systems are capable of so much more than a decade ago, most companies still subject their elevator music themes to cheesy, overly sentimental renditions of popular hits – or even those that were never popular. Elevator music doesn't have to be a joke in your company when it can easily be a motivating force for customers, fun programming for employees, and memorable to both. Wouldn't it be great to have people saying, "That ABC Company has the best elevator music – you should go in just to hear it!"? Sure it would. The right elevator music can bring in new clients, paying customers, or just enhance their experience with and connection to your business.

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(Sup sua chua tham cam)

Hue never fails to dish up its surprises: culture, history, and not least, gastronomy. And it's not afraid to dish up another surprise: jelly-fish. It is unashamedly served with shrimp and crab, with various spices and vegetables, and no less enjoyed for that. That's a speciality of Hue where they prepare the ingredients separately, then mix them in the serving to bring out their flavour and taste.
But first, catch your jelly-fish...

:D :P :D


 
 
 
ok my english is not so good than you(i take all that definition from wikipedia.org)...but i understand...thx for your cooperation

:)) :) :P
 
 
 
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ok my english is not so good than you(i take all that definition from wikipedia.org)...but i understand...thx for your cooperation
:)) :) :P

don't worry, i stole it from google (don't tell anyone, pleaz): i'm not trying 2 have an english contest over here, just playin' the clown and tryin' 2 make something clear maybe. :D
 
 
 
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Originally posted by : lorsen
ok my english is not so good than you(i take all that definition from wikipedia.org)...but i understand...thx for your cooperation
:)) :) :P

don't worry, i stole it from google (don't tell anyone, pleaz): i'm not trying 2 have an english contest over here, just playin' the clown and tryin' 2 make something clear maybe. :D



haaa funny guy you are , thx to give happyness...for the moment its necesery some people come crazy, they take it too seriously...
 
 
 
Zark say me that in Ebel V2, some musical genre could change...he say me also that any suggestion about musical genre are welcome...only users have to give musical genre with definition, if its necesary he add it;

8)
 
 
 
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Zark say me that in Ebel V2, some musical genre could change...he say me also that any suggestion about musical genre are welcome...only users have to give musical genre with definition, if its necesary he add it
Give me a silly lovesong section and i swear 2 fill it up!
;)
 
 
 
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Give me a silly lovesong section and i swear 2 fill it up!
;)

How yeah, i'll join in for that one :) Nicole en Hugo style, yieeeehaaaaaaaaaaa! lol
 
 
 
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like;

[B]Krautrock [/B] : is a generic name for the experimental bands who appeared in Germany in the early 1970s. It was originally a somewhat derogatory term coined by the British music press from the slang term "Kraut", meaning "a German person" and taken from the traditional German dish of pickled cabbage, Sauerkraut. However, because much of the music produced by these bands has since come to be very highly regarded, the term "krautrock" is now generally seen as an accolade rather than an insult.

Typical bands dubbed "krautrock" in the early 1970s included Tangerine Dream, Faust, Can, and others associated with the celebrated Cologne-based producer and engineer Conny Plank, such as Neu!, Kraftwerk and Cluster. Bands such as these were reacting against the post-WWII cultural vacuum in Germany and tending to reject Anglo-American popular culture in favour of creating their own more radical and experimental new German culture.

Mostly instrumental, the signature sound of krautrock mixed rock music and "rock band" instrumentation (guitar, bass, drums) with electronic instrumentation and textures , often with what would now be described as an ambient music sensibility.


yes i like this 'dividing 'idea pretty much althoug i think we would end up in a 'hokjesgeest' mentality. But its necessary. music is music but indeed, to define things it's nice to know where you talking about.
So as a heavy krautrock fan, i have even more suggestions. this genre is still in progress... we are talking about free folk, psych rock, progrock and other more cosmical genres. We can categorise even this under psychedelica...maybe thats easier.